I dont believe that until somebody tries. From which it follows that the Germanic languages originated in the North Sea. Of course there is really no such thing as exact and linearly orderable base stability anyway though: its more of a rough notion, dependent on cultural and lexical variables; and I do not think that using a single checklist is always the best possible approach to lexicostatistics. The preface is funny: it warns readers that it is full of mistakes, that it is the first thing (das erste) published is Russian, that it took 40 years to compile the Dictionnaire de lacademie Franaise and it still has mistakes, that due to the lack of perfect knowlege of German authors relied on Latin, and that mistakes will be corrected in next editions and for this they ask readers help. I told the program that Lojban was the root and let it rip. (And then I read this last paragraph and scoff at the preposterousness that I have any knowledge base for saying it. No explanations for the process. For I saw Mehri/Jibbali/Soqotri words that you quoted and random stuff like: saydoman.com: This new era of Almaradam has made it necessary for us to change our brand into a more global looking brand where Almaradam has evolved into Sayd Oman. Poemas del ro Wang But I think Blench imagines it more or less this way: the least recent own ancestor of Semitic is in Africa Probably. For example, in the Polish data (Jarema & Kadzielawa, 1990), we do not see any cases where the -inflected singular imperative form replaces a tensed form, e.g., the past tense, which is inflected for mood, aspect, tense, person, number, and gender (six features). Maybe this is some Potou-Akanic-internal process that Stewart felt could be projected back to Proto-Volta-Congo (if so, again illustrating the problem with his general thesis.). Nuer does (both mono- and diphthongs); perhaps he went mad from the revelation. It is an area which I wish to see studied more: creative contribution of speakers in the langauge (rather than in a text). Using that many genes allows the detection of incomplete lineage sorting and simply adds more data. But, regardless, I doubt whether Kitchen et al* even know why real historical linguists think that shared innovations matter. In northern Canada and Alaska theres another, larger species called the sheefish or inconnu. In similar terms, Anatolian is the most basal lineage of Indo-European, and Gothic (aka East Germanic) is the most basal lineage of Germanic. Both the neighbouring Senoufo (Volta-Congo) and Songhay languages have picked up the weirdness, helpfully proving this point. ), @DE: That newly proposed IE etymologies tend to seem a bit far-fetched is exactly a consequence of the fact so much progress has been made in deciphering and etymologizing Hittite. If all we had were the contemporary standard languages, though good luck. Maybe its like some mixed languages, where the vocabulary is resistant to change and the grammar is allowed to shift to something else (as in Kallawaya). In most of human history though, the draw of oceanic coasts that they have over freshwater environments has not been fishing, but seal and seabird hunting. Interestingly, the consonantal script of Ethiopic had undergone a significant metamorphosis by the fifth century AD, becoming a syllabary of almost 200 CV symbols. Contact!!! (Also, thanks DM for an informative discussion that makes me aware of some gaps in my knowledge of phylogenetics; any good recent introductions youd recommend?). I checked Rabin, their quoted source (Lexicostatistics and the internal divisions of Semitic, in Bynon and Bynons Hamito-Semitica, 1975, doi: 10.1515/9783111356167.85). About derivational morphology it is interesting. Quite the opposite. Molecular phylogenetics completely stopped making this assumption about 25 years ago. Certainly there is reason for skepticism and continued research. Jan Freemans Boston Globe column Because I was able to observe the moment when instead of people who read him (and who do not speak about Meinhofs classification) we have people who never read Meinhof, who speak about his race-based classification and who speak of Greenberg who brought the light to the dark continent. I like, in principle, the idea that linguistic differentiation occurred earlier and in a different location than the first attestation of each branch. Your email address will not be published. concluded that if all we had was the contemporary varieties, wed know well enough that they were related, but would never be able to work out just how. Neither looks anything more than what you might find by chance to me. Plus, independently, the pronouns t or vos can be used for the second person singular, with one of the vos inflections or with the t inflection, making eight voseos in all. Didnt Arnaud Fournet prove to the satisfaction of all that Indo-European-Hurrian originated in Syria? Wikipedia:Reference desk/Language Its a beacon of attentiveness and crisp thinking, and an excellent substitute for the daily news.. Anyway, grammar is not quite the same as lexicon. And in the acquisition of the lexicon, again across languages, children move from a restricted vocabulary of nursery terms and over or underextensions of conventional items to a period of creative innovation; eventually the conventional lexicon takes over, while at the same time vocabulary growth is both constrained and elaborated by socially and culturally appropriate distinctions of register and usage, lasting into adolescence. Yet a different Semitic writing tradition would descend from the Proto-Canaanite script. Hamitic, non-Semitic languages north of the Bantu line. This is hardly limited to Latin American Spanish: Era un marinero de los buenos, saba nadar como un pescado, sealaban al acordarse del fallecido. His Historical-Comparative Reconstruction of Nilo-Saharan has a version on p. 66 (maybe it was this book). But my idea was that classes are many and there must be some consequences (for usage) of this simple fact. Grodzinsky (1984) further proposes that, in contrast with many Indo-European languages, only inflectional substitution can be resorted to in Semitic languages, in which words are formed by inserting discontinuous vocalic morphemes into discontinuous consonantal roots.1To illustrate this structural property, the author discusses an example from Hebrew in which the three consonants s, m, and l are shared by the related words simla (a dress) and smalot (dresses). You would have thought that it was a hammering wherewith each hair was driven into his head, with the uprising with which he uprose.. (As I say, I know hardly anything about this. This needs to be qualified for a verb-final language like Turkish, where the unmarked means of clause linkage is by nonfinite, nominalized constructions. With respect to the criterion of the bundling of areal traits, some scholars had thought that such clustering at the boundaries of a linguistic area might be necessary or at least helpful for defining linguistic areas properly. In the domain of syntax, children typically gain command of simple clause structure in their language between ages 2 to 3years. ), [EDIT: looking at the actual text of his article, its just that hes using the letter <> as both a consonant and a vowel. For AntC, (1) I believe salmon were once so plentiful one did not need to look for other river fish and (2) I find it more curious that the more common lox word for salmon has no cognate in Irish with the meaning, than that the cattle-prizing Celts borrowed the latin generic word for fish, The native word icne salmon in middle Irish. Hes got lots of papers on academia.edu if you can bear all the spam that results from merely brushing past the site. -Pharyngeal consonants. Arabic Fisch. Proto-Bantu and Proto-Niger-Congo: Macro-areal typology and linguistic reconstruction. Theil 2006). Wiktionary says bosque is borrowed from Catalan or Occitan bosc, from Late Latin boscus or Vulgar Latin *buscus, from Frankish *busk, from Proto-Germanic *buskaz, cognate with English bush.. The first evidence of the script, called Proto-Sinaitic, came to light in the early twentieth century with Sir Flinders Petrie's excavations of Egyptian turquoise mines at Serabit el-Khadim in the Sinai; hence the name. This Proto-Canaanite script is the immediate ancestor of the Phoenician script (appearing in the eleventh century BC), which is in turn the source of the ancient Hebrew (c.ninth century) and Aramaic (c.eighth century) writing systems (the Hebrew language began to be written with the Aramaic script during the sixth century BC, although the Samaritan sect continued to use the old Hebrew letters). I doubt whether Kitchen et al* even know why real historical linguists think that shared innovations matter. So technically, a usage (unknown to me) where it is related to spikes could have developed but I do not think so. There are a few lineages in linguistics that can be said to be basal, and then only over a few centuries, and only because we know the history. We recognize significant centrifugal linguistic forces. It calls for subsidy if you ask me. How do the biological mathematical models cope with widespread lateral transmission of genetic information (a well-known thing in bacteria, after all, though presumably not quite as pervasive as the analogue with languages, where it is the rule rather than the exception)? And he has a real researchers gift of coming up with new interesting questions to look into. Changed Code Captions: The following code captions have been changed in the MARC Code List for Languages. But for a European AA is Semitic and also langauges similar to it. His classification may in fact be valid, but he goes beyond what has been actually demonstrated, and he doesnt seem to be really aware of the fact; he presents speculations as established facts. I was confusing him with Mukarovsky, who actually had a quite different erroneous idea re Songhay and Mande anyway. Slavic can outcompete many langugauges in productivity of singulatives, but one common way to do that is using all-purpose nominal suffix -ik/-ok/-ka. Then we naturally want to make regional (skewed) terminology compatible with international (unbiased) terminology and here we have a problem. Unfortunately, I dont think that is all they mean. The y- could go back to *- (as it does in ygm camel) , which would correspond to Nawdm r-, but the actual Nawdm word for hedgehog is legiila. The former is fisu, following this varietys general trend of by default getting all the content words from Swedish (including a majority of the Swadesh list); the latter is *erig > Udm. The earliest reference there is to a sexalingual dictionary of Poletika a translation of John Rays trilingual nomenclator classicus (he added Russian, French and German glosses to English, greek and Latin). I know that the Comanche plundered Texas and Mexico on an ongoing basis, but these were populous and relatively wealthy societies. But some had dropped out, at random, so what survived of language C was not C1 through C100, but C11, C14, C22, C37. The list itself can be based on Mande data. Since the three traditional branches of the Hamitic languages (Berber, Cushitic and Egyptian) have not been shown to form an exclusive (monophyletic) phylogenetic unit of their own, separate from other Afroasiatic languages, linguists no longer use the term in this sense. list leaf, listy (a specific register when applied to leaves on a tree, usually applied to paper and then sounds serious) leaves, listva foliage, listya (the most common plural for leaves on a tree but morphologically not quite plural) listik/listok/listochek a leaf listiki, listki, listochki (unserious when applied to paper). Thats a fault known as Word Not In, or WNI: the use of a word in a definition that does not appear in the dictionary. Seriously, both English and Russian have many pig words. Ku(d) referred to both fresh and salty varieties, and the same sign was used as a semantic determiner for fish of all kettles. Tom Gldemann thinks that Sandawe may be distantly related to Khoe-Kwadi, and Tuu may turn out to be related to Kxa. * The reason that the branch between Sinitic and the rest of the tree is the longest could of course be that Sinitic and Tibeto-Burman really are sister-groups, but it could also be that Sinitic is just lexically innovative (e.g. Conversely, the idea of the expansion of a pastoral or hunter-gatherer language group across vast agricultural lands at a time when the advantage of the horse was unknown would be surprising to me. (Thats a World Cup joke, for those who arent into that sort of thing.). The noun also exists in Arabic dialects of the region, probably borrowed from Berber, and forms with /q/ may in fact represent reborrowings from Arabic (cf. Perhaps he has no need and space to do that, he notes himself that the area remains diverse even if Niger-Congo and Nilo-Saharan both are families and related. Go disprove them. Sapirs Language is even olderer, but more fun. The Millions Go give your heart, and if it break Trying to find out more about Gregersen, i discovered that his interests were wide-ranging: https://prabook.com/web/edgar.gregersen/147434. Schleicher published six years before the O.S., and he and Darwin exchanged letters. Basal lineages in many cases really havent changed all that much in eons. The failure to develop methods for distinguishing innovations and probable innovations from shared features that cannot be so identified is a fundamental weakness of historical-comparative theory that we need not continue to tolerate. I have some dim recollection of some Hittite words which are indeed cognate to forms in the rest of Indo-European but actually dont mean the same as in any other branch, like the *mer- root, which (I gather) is disappear in Hittite, rather than die. And what Ive seen of discussions of Hittite etymology seems to turn on ingenious PIE etymologies of words whose meaning is already known. I just typed this postscriptum in a hurry. The couple of journal articles Ive read did not inspire me to take on his more comprehensive work.). He regards Chadic and Omotic as the branches of Afroasiatic most remote from the others. Now, Proto-Albanian was almost certainly spoken inland in the Balkans, and not along the Adriatic, which at the time of the fall of the Roman Empire seems to have been Romance-speaking. Lisramic is the only one based on roots from the languages themselves (*lis tongue; language; Eg. Has anyone ever proposed that another known branch of IE split before Anatolian? >Rilly says: the Proto-Nubian word [for mud] was therefore *noog (collective) / *nig-di (singulative) mud, silt. turned the aspirates into affricates, and then the postvocalic short ones into long fricatives.). I dont know that this is tremendously perplexing, though: Blench doesnt seem surprised that much of Eurasia is even less diverse (at that high a level) and he, of all people, should know that it is stupid to imagine African prehistory in terms of lots of tribal bands largely isolated from any long-distance networking. The paper I linked to most recently above uses Kelif throughout. It is actually by no means clear that even Eastern Sudanic is a real entity at all: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Sudanic_languages. Sentence first I think it actually is true that Africa is very undiverse compared with the Americas. 3. I copied them right. (Though, I concede, apparently wrong given the DNA match with the Natufian culture.). Or as they call it in English, an accent, When I compared most recent common ancestor of Semitic to mitochondrial Eve, I wanted to note that everything is even worse: mitochondria do not reproduce sexually, even though they need us to make love (we assist their reproduction like bees assist flowers, just differently). Dimmendaals belief that Songhay is definitely related to Nilotic. The view espoused by this author is that children start out the task of acquisition equipped with categorical and semantic distinctions of the type termed by Chomsky substantive as against formal universals, akin to Keenan's (1979) idea of naive or primitive universals (Reilly etal., 2002). Harold Fleming (2006) proposes that Ongota constitutes a separate branch of Afroasiatic. The paddlefish is a commercial food fish in all 3 areas (American paddlefish were introduced in China), but not an important one. To make life more difficult, though, there are also a couple of plural forms like vuaa, plural of vuor fruit of the red kapok tree, from sg *vuogr(), pl *vuoga(a). Wortschatz Deutsch Interesting footnote: There are a number of loans between Latin and Berber, including Berber gittus into Latin cattus, cat I doubt if thats as uncontroversial as he makes it sound. https://linguistics.ucla.edu/people/Melchert/melchertcopenhagen.pdf. Dikobraz seems like a good spiky word. But how much has changed in the two years! His argument is that morhological reconstruction simply does not work for Mande. Using morphology, phonology, syntax, anything is just as easy. Temperature is still going to be an important issue, even for the cold blooded. Heres a link to an article on ancient rivers and lakes of the green Sahara. It continues to surprise me that Blench is so reluctant to see this. singulative I learned this word in a Breton lesson. For the purposes of an algorithm that processes (weighed) characters the same way all differences are quantitative. Textbooks are not a good guide in this area. Why isnt that true across west Africa or areas of Nilo-Saharan languages? Cazn is indeed the common name for many species, but theyre all selachimorphs, and I think the term gets applied to any small, edible shark thats harmless to humans. Again, Dagbani and Mampruli are so close on a Swadesh-100 metric that they might as well be the same language; but so is Kusaal, which is not mutually comprehensible with either and is quite different (and much more conservative, overall) phonologically and to some extent morphologically and syntactically. The hypothesis that a group of languages including Semitic, Egyptian Berber, Cushitic and Hausa (later expanded to all Chadic) are genetically related has been part of the linguists res (privatae res, one might say) for over a hundred years. Leo Reinisch (1909) had already proposed linking Cushitic and Chadic while urging their more distant affinity with Egyptian and Semitic. The latter two are just spinoffs of the first, created mainly to maximize all impact factors (i.e. Can the qpAdm software(35,36), distinguish between these scenarios? The only person Im aware of who thinks that Niger-Congo and Nilo-Saharan may be demonstrably* related who is not basically a crank is Roger Blench, and even he only makes it a tentative suggestion (he was floating the idea that N-Cs famous class system might have arisen in some way from Nilo-Saharan number marking, IIRC.). But Sanskrit+Greek will get you faster to PIE than French+Armenian. In some varieties of colloquial Latin American Spanish, I am not sure if pescado wouldnt be substituted in all of your examples. In other words: For example, the Egyptian hieroglyphic symbol resembling waves of water and used in the Egyptian system as a monoconsonantal symbol with the value /n/was assigned the value /m/ in the Proto-Sinaitic script, as the word for water in the West Semitic language of that script began with /m/. Of course North Germanic is a mess in its own right; AFAIK the historical split is Danish/Swedish vs. Icelandic/Norwegian (with a few marginal dialects that dont belong in either), but in the modern situation it only works (and then barely) if Norwegian means Landsml; Bokml is pretty much just Danish-across-the-Skagerrak and Nynorsk is trying really hard to get closer to Swedish. First the authors rarely engage with the literature, failing to describe the errors that presumably characterise the proposals of those who want to argue for the reality of particular phyla. There are ways to distinguish those things. being old relics, and the other Ethiosemitic languages being re-migrations from Arabia. YBP = years before present (presumably 1950 as typical in that sort of thing), so the dates are 850 BC for Akkadian, 150 AD for Aramaic, 250 AD for Geez, 650 BC for Hebrew, and 1450 BC for Ugaritic. An interesting feature of the Old South Arabian script is that the order of its letters departs from that of Phoenician and the consonantal script of Ugarit. Note In all likelihood, nominal cases originally existed in Meroitic just as they exist in modern NES languages and Meroitic verbal morphology is still mostly unknown and assumptions in this matter remain highly speculative. He gives only a couple of forms proposed to be cognate with other NES languages. Russian Dinosaur Balashon (Partly because Wiktionary let me down for the LG form, so I jumped to Romance). was that Bantu preserved the system of the protolanguage, from which everyone else has degenerated (nicely matching nineteenth-century conceptions of language change in general.) An interesting feature of this Old South Arabian script is that the order of its letters departs from that of Phoenician and the consonantal script of Ugarit. Poletika was hm. I have vivid memories of seeing a fish the size of a grown man unloaded from a tiny fishing canoe on the Niger river at its confluence with the Benue at Lokoja, 260 miles from the sea , Did the Romans do much fishing in the English Channel? The comment on Pre-Sumerian substratum made my eyebrow go up. Salmon have a life cycle that brings them from the ocean far upriver to spawn, but certainly theyre easier to catch in rivers. 195 0 obj
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(unless one of the authors was the best man at the editors wedding). Though the methodology of the paper itself is valueless (after all, its the same as the process that proved that Indo-European originated in Anatolia nine thousand years ago), the idea of the Semitic languages originating in Iran is not quite as counterintuitive if you imagine Semitic replacing some other Afro-Asiatic language groups intervening (geographically, and perhaps linguistically too) between the supposed Semitic homeland and Egypt. As mentioned, several of the traits in the Mesoamerican linguistic area do have the same boundary, though many other traits do not, and typically in other linguistic areas the various areal traits do not share the same geographical boundaries, offering no clearly identifiable outer border of the linguistic areas in question. For that matter, what is the Proto-Permic one? The differences are due to (3.1) drift (3.2) founder effect (3.3) intermarriage with different pre-existing populations of the islands I didnt think to make further enquiries Its not in the dictionaries. Wait. Figure 2 shows Spread of Iran-like ancestry and Semitic languages. All this is way beyond my pay grade, but I expect better-informed Hatters will have useful things to say about it. The laryngeal must have been present for the schwa secundum to be inserted; without laryngeal, we would expect ., By contrast in Uralic *kala is highly stable. Could it simply be older than the Germanic *o > *a shift? For example, the tropical seas are full to the gills (heh) with nutrient-rich plankton, while there is less in the icy arctic. https://www.academia.edu/41113915/Chabu_and_Kadu_two_orphan_branches_of_Nilo_Saharan. Efforts have been made in the past to explain the suffix/prefix difference as due to Gur having reinforced its nouns with following articles and then having lost its original prefixes. However, from the perspective of expected word-order co-occurrences, these word-order arrangements may not be independent traits, but may be viewed as the result of the diffusion of a single complex feature, the overall SOV word-order type with its various correlated orderings in interrelated constructions. (and if it was [h], it could still have been [h] throughout Cuneiform Anatolian simply because cuneiform had no way to represent it. However, the term is pretty common in American cultureespecially, as I indicated, but not entirely, in the West. Lexilogos (French) Vydrin admits the evidence isnt definitive, but then rails against the extremes represented by the overly rigorous approaches of splitters and the too lax approaches of lumpers. But as it happens, Gldemann does do both: for a more reconstruction-centric example, cf. Some scholars had thought that the bundling of areal traits, clustering at the boundaries of a linguistic area, might be necessary for defining a linguistic area, though this has proven a poor criterion. Youre probably talking about something like Indo-European in terms of overall diversity, and there are a lot of well-described Mande languages nowadays to be working with. I was not joking. Who viewed me in a thoughtful way, Attempts that Ive seen to make out that any particular affixes are cognate are extremely unconvincing (and annoyingly prone to get Gur data quite wrong.). We use cookies to help provide and enhance our service and tailor content and ads. Tony Nadens dictionaries imply that fox in Ghanaian English actually means jackal, which would explain a lot: it wasnt that my informant was wrong, but that I misunderstood him. After the editing window closed, it did occur to me that, just as nouns are more borrowable than verbs, it might well be the case that if vocabulary remains from a substratum, verbs might be more liable to survive than nouns. It is a poor starting point, butit is some starting point. As I said, the low-hanging fruit has been picked. But we have a compound for porcupine, which in modern Russian folk-etymologizes as wildimage. Theres some circular reasoning in using his cognate table as proof of a relationship between proto-Nubian and Meroitic, since this is his reworked table and the best proof he has for the meanings of the Meroitic words is their correspondence with his sense of proto-Nubian. So the early Neolithic in North Africa is consistent with Paleolithic genetics, but the later Neolithic is loaded with Middle Eastern genomes. @drasvi, to me Ouch! sounds like you think its wrong or wrongheaded. It is absolutely vital in comparative work to accept that there is a possibility that the evidence may be insufficient to establish or refute your claim. Thats the North American species, evidently recently introduced as described in the abstract. The major problems with this are (a) there are typically only few distinct phonological shapes of these suffixes in Niger-Congo languages and (b) individual suffixes typically have several meanings, and these meaning typically overlap with those of other suffixes. The absolute frame of reference penetrating English grammar. Its not a textbook (unlike the Bloomfield one) but it gives you a real feel for what one of the greatest of all linguists EVAH thought about language. Another locative ending seems to be *r (e.g. I do hope it would give the actual division into Scandinavian vs. English-plus-German, but I have no idea how it would actually work out. This seems entirely reasonable on a lot of levels: doing a full-dress reconstruction of a whole linguistic family is a pretty hard way of going about getting your PhD compared with even a very searching grammar of just one language; documentation of individual languages is a much higher priority anyway, and in any case a necessary first step to having anything to, like, compare; and its hard to do anything useful in comparative work unless you know at least one of the languages involved pretty well. Stone-built tombs at Mishrife (Qatna), and Umm el-Marra (Figures 57) the corbelled Hypogeum at Tell Ahmar (Til Barsip), and the unique white mountain tomb at Banat underscore the wealth and prestige of urban elites. As you say, theres new high-quality data coming in a lot these days, as well; this is not the least of the things that makes a fresh look at comparative Oti-Volta work both possible and fruitful, too (though thats a whole lot less challenging than Eastern Sudanic.). I didnt believe in Nilo-Saharan at that time any more than I do now; the possibility that I was interested in is that maybe Songhay-Saharan was a valid family. A Piagetian orientation will explain them in terms of general cognitive principles and shared conceptual underpinnings which provide a universal epistemological basis for acquisition of linguistic knowledge (Slobin 1985). 1. krama of iwak krama 1. Or at least the first that has a name. Its interesting to see that the Omotic groups do indeed show an average of maybe 25% Egyptian affinity, versus 50% for both Cushitic and Semitic-speaking groups and a small slice of pie in Nilo-Saharan speakers. Nobody really says that. The be lying down example from Western Oti-Volta that I cited above contains a likely case of semantic usurpation: Moor ge could very well be the same etymon as the root of Kusaal gbnm /gb:m/ sleep; the reduction of the labiovelar stop to a velar in Moor is regular, as is the monophthongisation in Kusaal, the tones work, and the semantic shift seems believable enough. For example, he (elsewhere) takes it for granted that its up to splitters to prove than Mande is not part of Niger-Congo, on the sole grounds (as far as I can see) that this relationship has been accepted by many people for a long time, without addressing how weak the evidence was from the beginning. but it seems like something that would make sense in the kinds of marsh/estuary zones where urbanization and protostates first emerged (like southern mesopotamia, to get back to the semites), and where city-state territorial expansion arguably established key conditions for translocal languages. 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